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Serge is flung into another dimension where a mysterious villain named Lynx sends some government enforcers to arrest him. After being saved by Kid, a thief with a vendetta against Lynx, Serge resolves to confront Lynx and get some answers. Lynx knew to send enforcers to capture Serge almost as soon as he arrived, so he must have some idea of what’s going on. Lynx is from the Zenan mainland, far away from El Nido Archipelago where the game takes place, but somehow he’s become a confidant of General Viper, the lord of Viper Manor and ruler of the archipelago. Serge and his allies resolve to break into Viper Manor to confront Lynx, but the raid ends in disaster and the party are chased off a balcony overlooking the sea. Serge blacks out on contact.

Luckily, video game blackouts aren’t all that dangerous and he wakes up hours later to no long term damage, having been rescued and brought to the village of Guldove by a fisher and ferryman named Korcha. Unfortunately, Kid was poisoned by Lynx during the escape, and her condition is becoming critical. The village doctor, named Doc (nominative determinism wins again), determines that Kid can only be healed by hydra humour. Serge resolves to kill a hydra in Hydra Marsh to save her, and Doc asks what rock he’s been living under: Hydras have been extinct in Hydra Marsh for nearly a decade. Serge mumbles something about how this timeline is bullshit.

Harle, Lynx’s sidekick who Serge and his party had confronted along with Lynx back in Viper Manor, appears with her little ghost-y shadow teleportation trick to steal some special pendant from Kid, and tells Serge to come and catch her at Opassa Beach. At the beach, she uses the pendant to pull Serge and his party back into Home World, tosses the pendant back to him, and then peaces out into a temporal rift. Serge and his party are concerned that Harle has clearly lined them up for this, but there’s a hydra here, and they’re not just gonna let Kid die because Harle is shady.

It’s going to be a while before any of this paragraph gets revealed in the hypothetical game’s narrative (and in the real game it’s mostly reserved for an exposition dump at the end when the devs ran out of money and had a couple of NPCs explain all the missing story pieces straight to camera before dropping you into the final boss and asking you to pretend this confrontation had received proper buildup), but Harle isn’t tricking the party, she’s tricking Lynx. While her ultimate goal is to use the Chrono Cross to merge both Home World and Another World to bring back the dragon god and wipe out humanity and that would be bad, it’s in opposition with Lynx, who wants to prevent the Chrono Cross from being created at all, sacrificing Home World to be wiped out completely by Lavos in order to preserve a time loop in Another World where Lavos is defeated and the utopian future of 2400 comes to pass to create Chronopolis and get it sent back in time to reinitiate the loop. Kid is an agent of Lucca and basically her final piece on the board (there’s a couple of people – like Guile/Magus – who are kind-of allies of Lucca but make no effort to actively pursue her goals unless Kid or Serge show up to ask for their help). Harle helped Lynx kill Lucca several years ago, but at this point she estimates that Lynx is moving into scoring position and needs to be slowed down, so she’s going to help Serge save Kid and revive Lucca’s side of the conflict.

Those familiar with the game will realize I’ve drastically rewritten this section, which is why the plot summary goes on longer than normal. This is partly because it’s one of several very poorly explained parts of the Chrono Cross plot that I am rewriting to be more comprehensible and partly because I am collapsing Chrono Crosses’ meaningless plot branches together. Instead of having the chance to leave Kid to die and getting Macha, Doc, and best boy Glenn out of the deal, or else saving Kid and getting the much lamer Korcha, Mel, and Razzly for your trouble, I’m going with one plotline that recruits all six characters. This also solves the problem where you only get blamed for killing the hydra if you didn’t do that (because if you killed the hydra, Razzly is in your party and the fairies are more sympathetic to you) and Doc only joins your party if you abandon his patient and convince him to give up on medicine because he’s bad at it.

You need Korcha’s boat to get back to the big island to chase Harle, and also he has a crush on Kid, so he’s going to help you (another problem with the split timelines – if you refuse to help Kid, Korcha’s mother Macha forces him to give you his boat anyway). Korcha’s minigame is fishing. The fishing minigame is already assigned to Mojo, but Mojo also has an occult archaeology side quest, so I’m happy to say that the fishing minigame is really Korcha’s side quest, but also you use the same mechanics as part of Mojo’s side quest (but actually completing the entire fishing quest is not necessary – there’s one or maybe a handful of specific fish you need to catch with the Home Arni fisherman for Mojo’s quest, and Korcha’s is more completionist). Conveniently, we also pick up Korcha right before we get access to (bits of) Home World, so the fishing minigame is coming online for both of these characters at basically the same time.

Macha is the first character who isn’t just very strange (like Mojo or Nikki) nor a bad idea generally (like Poshul), but flat-out boring, which is both a bad idea and potentially impossible to rehabilitate. Macha’s theme is that she’s a mom, and that is like 100% of her character. She’s definitely leaning into the moms-are-tough archetype so she doesn’t come off as completely out of place as an adventurer (she’s definitely of the “motley crew of everyone willing and able” variety rather than the “elite group of trained professionals” variety, but the former are more common protagonists anyway), but there’s nothing else there. Her special attacks are all household chores, she has no sub-plots, and her only character relationship is with Korcha and Mel (who we’ll get to in a bit), her children. I would give her something about cooking, but there is a professional chef character coming, so that can’t bail me out. She’s also one of seven Guldove villagers (the others are Korcha, Mel, Doc, Orlha, Orcha, and Steena – only one of them is from Home World, the other six, including Macha, are from Another Guldove) who you can recruit in the game, which means nothing Guldove-specific can bail me out, either.

So we’re going to go with interior decorating. Y’know, a Sims-y, Animal Crossing-y sort of thing where you get a house in Guldove and can put credenzas in it. You can buy furniture, or make it using the game’s existing crafting system (in the game as it exists, it’s only used for weapons and armor, but it wouldn’t be hard to make it work on furniture and wallpaper, too), and you get points for putting fancier furniture in the house and synergy bonuses for stuff from the same set, with enough breathing room on the point totals required for Macha’s ultimate technique/weapon to allow for some creative expression rather than requiring you to stick to whatever maximizes score. This doesn’t have anything to do with Macha’s character in the game as it is, but it doesn’t seem super opposed to her character and it’s a weird enough side quest that it’s unlikely I’ll wish I’d saved it for someone else later.

Once we get back to Termina, there’s a few new faces we can pick up. First up: Greco. Greco is a medium who helps lay spirits to rest and decides to join Serge in his quest because Serge is technically dead in Another World so he’s basically a ghost which means Greco’s job is to help him out. He doesn’t seem to mind that Serge can return to Home World at this point, where he’s supposed to be alive (the text of the game sometimes implies Home World is an invalid timeline somehow, but the Good Ending is combining the timelines, not eliminating Home World altogether, so this doesn’t seem to be the ultimate conclusion).

He’s also a luchador wrestler. That second part doesn’t seem to be part of his job or backstory, he just has the aesthetic and fighting style of a luchador for no reason.

Greco’s side quest is straightforward, basically take Phasmophobia and Case of the Golden Idol, stir them together, and put them in a JRPG. There’s a few spooky haunted places that need Greco to lay their spirits to rest. Greco gets psychic visions into snapshots of the past when at these haunted locations. You have to use these clues to figure out what happened in this place. Once you’ve properly filled in your mad libs, Greco can hold a seance to lay the spirits to rest using the information you’ve learned.

Viper Manor is mostly abandoned as the Acacia Dragoons have retreated to Fort Dragonia to resist an imminent invasion of the Porre military, but you can visit the nearly abandoned site to find Luccia. Luccia is the first of several characters who are blatant rip-offs of a Chrono Trigger character but are also clearly not that Chrono Trigger character. Luccia is a mad scientist who looks basically exactly like Chrono Trigger inventor Lucca except older and also evil, but it’s a major plot point that Lucca’s dead in Another World (and probably in Home World, too – Lynx killed her, and he’s active in both timelines).

Chrono Cross totally ignores the uncanny resemblance to Lucca so we are, too. Luccia is an optional mad scientist and she’s going to have a chemical mixing minigame. You know the one, the spatial reasoning game where you have a bunch of vials with different-colored fluids in them which absolutely do not mix, and you can pour the topmost layer of mysterious science juice from one vial into any other vial with room left, and the goal is to get all the vials with the same color, or maybe to create a mixture with some specific combination. You can find different color chemicals as treasure in the world, and Luccia’s ultimate weapon requires all five of them, but you can get other prizes for completing puzzles with just three or four of the chemicals. Some of the other characters, like Pip and NeoFio, can also get upgrades from Luccia’s chemical puzzle – we’ll talk about those when we get there.

Assorted misadventures in Hydra Marsh lead to meeting Razzly, a fairy who’s been captured by a giant pentapus monster (one of several weird monsters who live in this place). Fairies usually live on Water Dragon Isle, but Razzly came here to check up on the hydra, which you are, uh…here to kill. The native dwarves of Hydra Marsh find Razzly and imprison her in the lair of the pentapus, and will later attack the fairies of Water Dragon Isle in a fullscale invasion. In the game as it is, Razzly has a weird thing where you can only get her ultimate technique if you do not bring her to fight the hydra, which means she does not find the hydra eggs, which means her sister Rosetta does not survive the dwarves’ attack, and then later you can visit Rosetta’s grave and Razzly gets her level 7 tech. I’m pretty sure this is one of those things where Chrono Cross is trying to nudge you into a New Game+ by making you wonder what happens if you recruit Razzly but then don’t save the hydra species. The thing is, it’s not good game design to hide ultimate techniques/weapons behind stupid choices that most people will only get to when they’re trying to find every single story branch.

There’s an interesting question to potentially be asked here if, after saving Razzly, she tells you that the Hydra Marsh is doomed if you kill this last hydra before it can raise its children. Do you let a party member die in order to preserve the ecology? Or do you finish off an entire ecosystem to save one person? If you spare the hydra, there’s no guarantee it won’t get knocked off anyway, but you’ve already seen what happens to the Hydra Marsh in Another World, so you know for a fact that things are going to get bad if you kill it.

The problem is, we can’t actually let Kid die, for plot reasons. So the game contrives to have Kid survive anyway even if you choose to spare the hydra, and by the time you meet Razzly you’re already committed to killing the hydra and can’t back out without loading a save or starting over, and the way you get her ultimate technique is actually to kill the hydra and then just fail to find and protect its children.

So barring a massive rewrite of the game to put a more expendable character in Kid’s place (probably Leena?), I’m instead going to rewrite the Hydra Marsh so that, in addition to the live hydra, there is also a hydra graveyard where you can potentially find some leftover humour, but it’s in a much harder to reach part of the map. Because there are no more living hydras in the area, it’s full of poison, just like Another Hydra Marsh, and you have to harvest anti-poison grooblies (berries or something) from the healthy parts to give you an anti-poison buff or else just buy a whole lot of antidotes and consumable healing. Maybe also chopping down some wood to build a bridge or something – there’s a full-on survival scenario for another character later on and I want to build up to it a bit with this one.

After you whip up the antidote for Kid from the hydra humour, local Guldove rapscallion Mel steals her elements, and yes, this is exactly like when Yuffie steals your materia in Final Fantasy VII. We’ve already got a thievery side quest for Kid, and while I don’t like it, I want to wrap this post up, so I’m going to have Mel piggyback on it. There are certain estates that can only be burgled by taking advantage of Mel’s tiny size.

Curing Kid inspires her doctor Doc to join the party. He felt useless just watching Kid die because he didn’t have the right medicine and joins the party to stock up. His side quest builds on survival-crafty gameplay that Razzly used, but with the specific objective of crafting medicines. Different areas have different materials that add up to different tech trees, with specific medicines to be crafted in Lizard Rock, the Isle of the Damned, Gaea’s Navel, El Nido Triangle, Mount Pyre, and Earth Dragon Island. Each one is associated with an element: Lizard Rock is blue, Mount Pyre is red, Earth Dragon Island is yellow, Gaea’s Navel is green, the Isle of the Damned is black, and El Nido Triangle is white. Hydra Marsh has a lot of overlap with the Gaea’s Navel tech tree, Shadow Forest has a lot of overlap with the Isle of the Damned tech tree, and Water Dragon Isle has a lot of overlap with the El Nido Triangle tech tree, so you can complete most, but not all, of the tree from those locations. Likewise, El Nido Triangle has chunks of the blue tree, and there’s some materials that show up in a lot of different tech trees, so they’re not completely distinct.

After saving Kid, you meet Glenn, an Acacia Dragoon who doesn’t like this Lynx fellow one bit and agrees to join Serge’s party to thwart whatever nefarious plot Lynx is pursuing, which Glenn suspects is going to be bad for General Viper and El Nido Archipelago. Glenn’s older brother Dario disappeared under mysterious circumstances after coming into contact with the cursed sword Masamune, and the game as it is has a whole side quest with Karsh, Dario’s rival who Dario consistently trounced, and Riddel, Dario’s fiancee who was left pre-widowed when he disappeared, and you can eventually find him and fight him as an optional boss and if you do you get the Masamune, which is…Serge’s ultimate weapon, for some reason. Glenn has an unrelated side quest where he can retrieve Einlanzer from Home World in the third act. We’re fixing this by making Masamune Glenn’s ultimate weapon.

With Kid back in the party (or having joined the party for the first time, if you’ve been real stubborn about keeping her out up until now – she won’t take no for an answer at this point), you set out for Mount Pyre, atop which sits Fort Dragonia, where Lynx and the Acacia Dragoons have retreated to await the coming of the Porre military, who plan to invade El Nido Archipelago. The plan here is basically the same as Viper Manor except hopefully this time we don’t fuck it up: Confront Lynx, defeat him, and interrogate him as to what his vendetta with Serge is and how he knew Serge would be arriving when he did.

While on the way to Mount Pyre, the party sails through mysterious fog and is kidnapped by pirates, who are then attacked by undead. In the middle of the three-way battle they meet Pip, a lab experiment of Luccia’s who you set free in Viper Manor (or didn’t, but if you didn’t then you can’t recruit her here). Pip’s mechanical gimmick is that she evolves Pokemon style into either an angel or a devil version based on whether you use more white, blue, and green elements (for angel) or black, red, and yellow elements (for devil). I’ve heard there’s something busted about the system, but I never checked, because this game has too many characters as it is.

For this version, I’m giving Pip a total of eight forms. Her base form is innate element white, because all characters must have an innate element, but we are treating this one as “untyped.” Whenever Pip has 1) cast more elements of one type than all five others combined and 2) cast at least ten elements, she transforms into a form matching that element, so she has a grass-and-tree themed green form, a water-themed blue form, and so on. If you transform Pip into all six of her elementally themed forms, she gains her ultimate technique and the power to switch forms at-will. Additionally, if Pip’s first transformations into each of her six elementally attuned forms follow the yellow-red-green-blue-black-white sequence used to activate the Chrono Cross in the final battle, you unlock a special time/dimension themed super form. This is definitely a New Game+ kind of achievement which is why Pip’s ultimate technique/weapon comes from getting all six forms in any order and does not require this ultimate form, because by the time you recruit Pip you’ve had none of the clues as to what that elemental sequence is (the hints are extremely opaque even in the lategame – I might rewrite that when we get there).

Dungeons is allegedly a Dungeon Heart strategy game in the mold of Dungeon Keeper: You build a dungeon and repel attacking heroes, inverting the usual Diablo-style dungeon crawling action RPG. It’s really clear that what they actually wanted to make was a regular ARPG, though. The main plot is about descending down through three different tilesets of dungeons and confronting three dungeon bosses. It’s full of references to almost entirely Blizzard RPGs like Diablo and World of WarCraft (although in fairness Arthas was also a character in WarCraft III, an RTS), bringing up Dungeon Keeper only to explain how Dungeons works differently.

So how does Dungeons work differently? Well, your dungeon lord is at least 50% of your influence over the map. Monsters don’t venture far from the pentagrams used to summon them, and you can’t move those pentagrams after placing them. The pentagrams do expand your area of influence, so you use pentagrams to push out the borders of your control. You can’t tunnel very far past your area of influence, so pushing borders like this is, to some extent, important.

Dungeons’ big change from Dungeon Keeper is that your primary resource is now soul energy. Heroes come into your dungeon with zero soul energy, but as they fulfill needs like treasure, defeating monsters, finding equipment, or finding knowledge, they fill up soul energy. Once they’re maxed out, they’ll try to leave. You get a chunk of their soul energy when you defeat them and can get more by imprisoning them in a dungeon to slowly extract the rest.

Regular old gold mined out from veins in your underground lair is still used to place minion-spawning pentagrams, but every other function of gold is in helping you extract soul energy, either by placing loot or libraries or armories or other things that give heroes soul energy or else dungeons that help you extract it from defeated heroes. Soul energy is the currency you use to increase your dungeon level and place prestige items. The former makes all your minions stronger while the latter makes your dungeon lord stronger.

Your dungeon lord is the only unit you can move around with regular right clicks. Since all of your other units are tied to pentagrams which must be placed within your area of influence, your dungeon lord is the only one who can venture into enemy dungeon lords’ territory and is the only unit you can use for various scenario-specific objectives to do with ruining the heroes’ day, like intercepting a thieves’ guild smuggling cash through the underground or wrecking the cellars of various townsfolk (which spawns heroes in response). Your dungeon lord has an ability tree retained throughout the campaign, and while some of the abilities on that tree increase the power of your defensive minions, most of them increase the power of your dungeon lord either passively or through spells you can equip to your hotbar.

Additionally, at the end of each of the game’s three acts (not explicitly defined as such, but there’s three major antagonists in three different dungeon tilesets confronted in sequence), you must send your dungeon lord to fight the enemy boss alone. The more you’ve invested your skill points into dungeon management, the less effective you’ll be in these boss fights where your dungeon lord is the only usable unit.

What it all adds up to is an ARPG with a dungeon heart backdrop that mainly serves to distract from the ARPG elements. The strength of your character is pretty directly tied to the prestige items you can build for your dungeon, but those are bought with soul energy, and the system for accumulating soul energy involves a lot of babysitting heroes into taking a bunch of gold before dropping your dungeon lord on them (who is, remember, the only mobile unit, even in sections of the dungeon under your control), then waiting for more heroes to show up. The rate at which soul energy comes in is pathetic compared to how much you need to buy big-ticket prestige items that can significantly increase your power (or dozens of smaller ones that add up to the same cost for slightly lesser effect).

Focusing the dungeon management on being half dungeon lord and half game master made the dungeon heart gameplay less fun than games which focus purely on defeating heroes, and the rate at which heroes come in is far too slow when they’re the only source of the game’s most vital resource, and all of your offensive actions (which are the conclusion to basically every scenario – less than a quarter of the game’s sixteen stages are defensive) are carried out by playing the action RPG that they clearly wanted to be making instead.

The game also performs poorly on my machine, and while I normally chalk this up to my weird powerful processor + weak graphics card combo caused by the pressure crypto has been putting on the graphics card market, Dungeons is a 2011 game, so this seems like it’s more likely the thing where games from the 2010-2012-ish era run worse than games both before and after and upgrading the machine doesn’t help.

I took a quick look at the next game in the series and it does look like you can actually move your units plus you can venture forth to the surface world instead of always wrecking people’s cellars, so I’m not taking Dungeons II and III out of the backlog, but they’re definitely on notice to actually work, both in terms of performance and gameplay.

Serge has been pulled from his Home World to Another World, an alternate timeline where he drowned as a child. Almost as soon as he arrived he was ambushed by government goons of the Acacia Dragoons sent to arrest him for being a ghost, on the command of a mysterious villain named Lynx. Lacking anything better to do with his weekend, he heads up to to the Acacia Dragoons’ capital city of Termina to break into Viper Manor and confront this Lynx guy to see what he knows about all this wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey bullshit.

He’s also given his talking dog a walk and scritches behind the ears, helped a sapient occult artifact resolve his identity crisis with the power of archaeological digs and fishing, and gone on a date with the alternate timeline version of his girlfriend. He also met a thief named Kid and could hypothetically have recruited her, but also maybe he didn’t, so we’re talking about her now, when he’s more likely to do so, because some criminal expertise seems relevant now. You’ve also got to recruit someone else who’s trying to get in and wouldn’t you know it but there are three options: Help a magician climb up the cliffs in the rear, chase a rock star into a haunted forest to creep up from the sewers below, or help a foppish idiot playing hero charge the front gates directly.

We first meet Kid back in the Another Arni Village episode and it’s possible to recruit her there, but she’s more thematically relevant here and it makes some amount of sense that Serge might put off recruiting her for a while, seeing as how the game opens with a dream premonition where you shank her for no apparent reason and you might reasonably want to avoid that. After Serge arrives in Another World, main villain Lynx sends some of his government allies to kidnap him, and Kid shows up to kick their asses (so hard they’ll kiss the moon) just on the principle that these guys are bullies, laws are for wimps, and she has a personal vendetta with Lynx anyway. This is before you’ve had a chance to recruit Leena or Mojo or (in this version of the game) Poshul, so if you pounce on the chance to have a cute girl in the party, she’s your first party member besides Serge. If, instead, you turn her down, she’ll try to join you again in Termina while you’re plotting to break into Viper Manor. Even if you refuse, she breaks in for her own reasons and gets poisoned, at which point Serge will agree to save her whether the player likes it or not and she’ll join the party after she’s cured even if you’ve resisted recruiting her up to that point.

This is intentionally a break from the original game’s branching story, which locks you out of content and incentivizes you to make dumb story choices but ultimately has no impact on the narrative whatsoever. In the game as it exists, you have the choice to save Kid or abandon her to die from poison, which means you can pursue thwarting your dream vision as far as letting Kid die anyway just to give destiny the finger, and she’ll still end up getting cured anyway by a random stranger and then shows up just in time to get killed on schedule despite never having even been a member of the party. If we’re going to force Kid’s presence in the party (and we have to), then let’s do it when Kid is in life-threatening danger and Serge is compelled by JRPG protagonist instincts to save her. After you cure her, the game gives you an option to try and reject her from your party, in which case Serge explains his dream to her, and Kid scoffs and says she’s going after Lynx no matter what, so unless you plan on giving up your quest completely, you’re headed to the same place at the same time and she’s coming whether you like it or not.

Regardless of exactly when and how you recruit her, she’s a thief and needs a side quest about doing freelance professional crimes. She also has a revenge plot with Lynx that forms part of the main plot, and that could carry a character by itself, but Kid is also a thief and her criminal nature is a major part of both how she is depicted and how other people treat her. She’s even a former member of a gang called the Radical Dreamers, although that’s more of a reference to a spiritual predecessor game than a significant part of her backstory, so we’ll focus on Kid as a solo act for her side quest.

That side quest is going to have basically the same gameplay as Viper Manor from the main plot: Dungeons that emphasize avoiding enemies (Chrono Cross has enemies that are visible on the map and cause random encounters when you touch them), solving puzzle locks, and avoiding traps. They don’t have to be as involved as Viper Manor, but there should be a few of them tied together by being called, like, the Three Treasures of El Nido or something. People can talk about how they’re the most famous treasures in the archipelago and they were going to be brought together for display at the Viper Festival, but they had to cancel because there was a rumor the Radical Dreamers were going to come and steal them, and now Kid feels like she’e been issued a personal challenge. Even in the game as it exists, Kid is trying to steal the Frozen Flame, although she never even gets close to accomplishing this and the only purpose of that plot thread is to introduce the Frozen Flame as a legendary treasure so that when you later on learn that it’s a fragment of Lavos from Chrono Trigger you have some context rather than being like “yeah, I guess that’s a name you could have for a piece of Lavos, sure.”

There are three characters you can recruit to break into Viper Manor. In the game as it exists, these three are mutually exclusive because they really want you to do a New Game+. In this version, recruiting one doesn’t lock you out of recruiting any of the others and you can even come back for them after Viper Manor.

Nikki is the rock star. His dancer sister Miki can’t be recruited until much later in the game, but they’re a diva duo and they can share a side quest. Miki is also recruited in act two when you’re playing as Lynx (after a body swap, but you still have a different party), which means she can hold up that side quest while you’re in Home World. In the game as it is, Nikki is integral to a side quest where you help the demihumans of Home World reclaim their ancestral home on the island of Marbule (they never lost it in Another World) with the power of rock and roll, and we’re going to make that the capstone to a series of rock performances where you play a rhythm game of some sort, with a number of different songs.

There’s one set in Another World played at Termina, which you can play by chasing Nikki into Shadow Forest where he’s trying to find his long lost sister Marcy (he’ll be doing this kind of thing a lot), then completing the Viper Manor episode of the plot (including the part where Nikki confronts Marcy – turns out she’s an elite warrior for the Acacia Dragoons and tries to kill Nikki for breaking in, family, amirite?) and returning with Nikki to his unnamed ship. The other set is in Home World, played at the SS Zelbess by bringing Miki to the ship (docked with the Zelbess) after confronting the exiled Sage of Marbule, who then agrees (without saying it outright) to teach Nikki the song of Marbule. Completing the Another World set isn’t necessary to saving Marbule (Another Nikki plays the Termina sets, but Home Nikki plays the Marbule song), but completing the Home World set is, and the Home World set is amped up versions of the Another World set, so Another World provides good practice.

You still can’t save Marbule until you get Another Fargo back in your party. After completing the Zelbess set, Nikki will say he thinks he’s ready, but Home Fargo says the Zelbess is still unable to sail and never will be. Just like in the game as it exists, if you recruit Another Fargo and bring him to the Zelbess in Home World, he’ll take over and prove Home Fargo wrong.

Pierre is the faux-hero. He sort of has a side quest, in that he’s a weakling who can become quite powerful under the right circumstances, specifically, if you get him the hero’s sword (plus the hero’s medal and hero’s shield, but hero’s medal is trivially acquired while recruiting him and hero’s shield is straightforwardly lootable in Viper Manor, the episode of the game you recruit him for). Thing is, you recruit him in Another World, lose him when you get flung into Home World alone, and regain him when you gain the power to travel between worlds. His hero sword is found in Home World and in a location that gets destroyed behind you, so his side quest must be completed without him and then you give him the results and this apparently completes his arc to grow into the hero that he always pretended to be.

We’re replacing this with a straightforward monster hunt. Pierre seeks to prove his valor by finding and slaying terrifying monsters who plague the land on behalf of a hunter’s guild in the same style as the Final Fantasy XII hunt quests (the minimum number of hunts to serve the side quest is, like, nine, bearing in mind that the first two or three are straightforward and easy and only the last handful are typical JRPG optional content challenge level, but as long as we’re dreaming let’s imagine there’s 70+ just like FF XII). After several of the hunts he complains about how the sun was in his eyes and he’s feeling sick today and so forth, but he grows into a significantly more powerful character over the course of the hunts as well as becoming less of a fop and more dedicated to the hard work needed to become a true hero.

Guile is the magician. Early on the Chrono Cross devs planned to have Guile be Magus from Chrono Trigger, but they abandoned this idea partway through when they remembered that they resent the fact that their game is a Chrono Trigger sequel in the first place and will fulfill their contractual obligation to tie their lore into the events of Trigger exclusively by way of killing beloved characters, then go back to making the standalone game they wanted to be making the whole time.

That leaves us with the first character who isn’t just gimmicky but downright incomplete. Guile is a magician and he wants to break into Viper Manor basically just to prove that no fortress is impregnable, sort of a Houdini type. Perfectly good character, but to the extent any kind of side quest makes sense for him, it’s to break into lots of heavily guarded estates – which is exactly what Kid’s side quest already is, and it’s more fun to break into a place to rob it than it is to break into it just to prove you can.

Now I do plan on doubling some of these characters’ side quests up, but only when they’re closely related themselves. Kid and Guile might have aligned goals, but only by coincidence. They don’t know each other and have no obvious character arc with one another, the way that character sets like Nikki and Miki or Glenn, Karsh, and Riddel do. One option for Guile is to pair him with the game’s other magician (as bizarre as some of these characters get, 45 is enough that their schticks end up with a lot of overlap anyway) and give him some kind of magic show, but Guile seems less like a performer and more like an analogue hacker, plus the other magician (Sneff, we’ll get to him eventually) has a whole character arc about getting out of this kind of performance, and while that’s a specific circumstance, we still potentially want to avoid “doing a magic show” as being a big part of his side content. I’ll decide for sure when I get there.

There are two ways to weasel out of this, both of which could be used together, although neither involve any real side quest, just piggybacking off of other things. The first is to lean into the role he played in Radical Dreamers, a short game produced by some of the Chrono Cross team independently in which Kid, a mysterious benefactor named Gil, and the protagonist (unrelated to Serge but a vaguely defined ageless faceless gender-netural culturally ambiguous adventurer person, so Serge’s backstory makes as much sense for them as any other) breaking into Viper Manor to steal the Frozen Flame. Guile is a master magician who steals things just to prove that no lock is unpickable and nobody is safe, and he has a mentor/benefactor relationship with the talented Kid, who’s so fiercely independent as to resist the idea of anyone else looking after her even to the limited extent of a mentor/pupil relationship, but who’s nevertheless convinced into letting Guile help because his deep reserve of experience is undeniably beneficial. In this way, Guile can piggyback off of Kid’s side content. He can also carry Kid’s side content when Kid isn’t in the party, although he’ll object.

The second way to weasel Guile into having content but not really is to reintroduce the concept of Guile as Magus in disguise. His involvement in Viper Manor is still down purely to taking the idea of an impregnable fortress as an affront and breaking into it just to prove it’s possible, and he can still be impressed by Kid’s talent and take it upon himself to guide her growth – but also Kid bears an uncanny resemblence to his missing sister Schala, because she is a clone made by Chronopolis to intervene whenever history threatens to break the Chronopolis time loop, which is a Good Ending for humanity despite the shady methods employed by Chronopolis in the process.

In act three of the game, the second time you’re playing as Serge (as opposed to act two when you play as Lynx – sort of, you’re bodyswapped), Guile is going to have a side quest that reveals that he is Magus as well as some of the information regarding what happened to his sister Schala in order to take some of the heat off of the endgame exposition dump where the devs ran out of money and throw a bunch of NPCs to literally explain the plot to you. I’m not going to bother to work out the exact plot details until someone pays me to write a complete game script (why won’t you return my phonecalls, Square?!), but the point of the side quest is to establish that Schala has merged with Lavos and to direct the player towards combining the Tear of Hate with the Tear of Love to form the Chrono Cross to reunify the timelines, destroying the Time Devourer while freeing Schala. This is the Good Ending generally, but for Guile/Magus in particular, any other ending is unacceptable. It’s also really unsatisfying how you make the Chrono Cross in the game as it exists.

You get the Tear of Hate and the Tear of Love automatically, then you walk up to the dragon sage Steena and ask what to do with them, and she says to go to a specific place to combine them into the Chrono Cross. That place is a waterfall that otherwise looks unenterable on the world map (no label shows up to indicate it’s an enterable location), but it’s empty of monsters so you can just walk in and combine the Tears into the Chrono Cross. There’s no explanation for why this has to be done here nor does the game even explain what the Chrono Cross is for. On repeat playthroughs you can figure out that the Tear of Love is from Home World and the Tear of Hate is from Another World so combining them allows you to merge the timelines, but it’s not clear on the first playthrough, and Chrono Cross spends the first 90% of its runtime being a JRPG that straightforwardly tells you a story. You can’t swerve from that into being a Dark Souls game where it’s on you to piece the lore of the main plot together from clues and fragments. Players will be completely justified in the expectation that the plot is going to be explained directly to them at some point, because that’s what the game has been doing up until now, and there’s no way for them to guess that this specific part of the game is meant to be a mystery solved before you beat it, rather than a setup to be paid off in a mandatory story scene.

This is all a long walk towards saying that Guile/Magus has an endgame side quest that directly ties into the main plot and straightforwardly explains that combining the Dragon Tears from each timeline creates an artifact that allows the timelines to be merged and which (due to wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff) will also eradicate the Time Devourer’s essence, leaving Schala untouched.

This definitely means that this version of Chrono Cross is unambiguously running out the budget for the game as it exists, which I normally try to avoid, but that’s completely out the window for this thought experiment (the practical answer to “how should Chrono Cross have been made” is “with far, far fewer playable characters,” not “by tripling the size of the game to give its 45 playable characters enough content to justify their includsion”).

Oh, and while we’re making changes, the tear from Home World should be the Tear of Hate, and the tear from Another World should be the Tear of Love, because there’s a (possibly accidental?) plot twist in Chrono Cross where you are from the goatee dimension where everything went wrong, but for some reason they labeled the Dragon Tears from Serge’s perspective instead of the greater world’s perspective, even though he had nothing to do with naming them.

I wrote an article about whether or not Final Fantasy games deliver on the promise of their characters’ and settings’ premises, where frequently the answer was “no.” The idea was that certain characters being playable party members evokes an idea that you get to do or be that character in some meaningful way, but you don’t, particularly. I think Final Fantasy VIII is the best exemplar: The premise is that you are cadets at a mercenary high school that teaches you how to fight wars and hunt monsters. This informs a small handful of early quests that set up the main plot, but once you accept an assassination contract on the main villain your mercenary high school credentials cease to be relevant, and by the 1/3rd-ish mark of the game your original motivation for going after the main villain has been swamped by personal motivations and a weird amnesia backstory. That last part is for the best (well, not the amnesia part), you want the stakes to get more personal and character-driven as the game goes on, but nowhere in the prior parts of the game is the premise of mercenary/monster hunter high school paid off.

I mentioned during the article that one reason some of the games ran into trouble, especially IV and VI, is because they shoved every cool character they could think of into the party, massively exceeding both the maximum size of the party in any given battle and the space they had to really develop those characters’ concepts, with the end result that the protagonists of your Final Fantasy game are like 60% Darkest Dungeon characters: Cool character designs with interesting mechanical functions, but a paper-thin backstory and nothing that evokes that you are playing as them in particular. That works great for Darkest Dungeon, where high turnover in party members is a key part of the premise, but in Final Fantasy games we are supposed to get to know these characters and they should have some opportunity to actually do the things they’re supposed to be about.

I also mentioned that peak character crowding came from Chrono Cross, which has 45 playable characters. Now, expecting Final Fantasy to pay off the premise of its characters was already unreasonable to ask of the developers, since the state of game development as both a technology and an art form just wasn’t that advanced and everyone understood that if you had a pirate captain in your party, that didn’t mean you would get to actually play as a pirate captain. It meant you would get to hang out with a pirate captain while doing the main plot. Not only was that still the state of the art when Chrono Cross came out, Chrono Cross also has such a flabbergastingly large cast list that you can’t plausibly do justice to most of the character premises because there are just too many.

But as a design exercise, I’m gonna try anyway. It should be a doable project when all I’m doing is giving a one-paragraph overview of what kind of side quest could be used to evoke the project, since I don’t actually have to design the damn thing. So the basic premise here is, imagine a version of Chrono Cross with way too much money and development time which creates a unique side quest for every single character’s ultimate weapon, including the ones who already had side quests for ultimate weapons, if I decide those side quests didn’t do the job properly.

We’re also going to be doing these characters in rough order of recruitment, so you can more or less follow along with the main plot along the way, although it may get kind of disjointed especially towards the end, when there’s few new characters to recruit and what ones do first become recruitable that late are usually the bizarre side characters with nothing to do with the A, B, or C plots of the game.

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One video game I’ve always wanted to see is Dragonball Musou. That is, a Musou fighting game like the Dynasty Warriors series, but in Dragonball.

This is a better fit than it might seem at first glance. The Musou series emerged from fighting games, and while they’ve drifted enough that you couldn’t make a good Dragonball Musou game just by slapping a coat of Dragonball paint on the latest Dynasty Warriors release, the fundamental bones are very much amenable to Dragonball. In the Musou series, there are peons, huge swarms of generic mooks, generic officers, 100+ minor characters who all share one of 3-5 generic models and movesets between them, and face officers, each of whom has a unique moveset and character model. Officers, especially face officers, are so massively more powerful than peons that not only are they expected to take out an average of about 400 of the poor bastards in every battle, they’re not even expected to be at any significant risk when doing so. Peons can do a bit of chip damage to officers, but stand almost no chance of inflicting serious injury on them by themselves.

Instead, peons serve three combat roles: Number one, they hold the line against enemy peons in places where officers aren’t present. The battlefields are big enough that there are times when peons fight other peons with no officers around, and battlefield control has an important impact on reinforcement rate and/or morale, the latter of which makes peons more aggressive, attacking more often and more willing to attack officers instead of enemy peons and therefore dealing more chip damage against officers, as well as allowing them to win fights against other peons. Morale is determined by a combination of battlefield control, defeated officers, and peon casualties, which are mostly under the control of officers, so you can swing a battle your way as an officer by getting a morale advantage, which causes peons to attack more often for a favorable casualty ratio against enemy peons and to steadily advance to claim territory even in locations where no officers are present, which can cause the morale advantage to snowball.

Number two, peons bog down enemy officers. Some peon attacks just about bounce off of officers, but others cause the officers to flinch, which means trying to run past a peon swarm can see you getting knocked off your horse (bear in mind we’re still talking about Dynasty Warriors now, we’ll talk about adapting this to Dragonball later) and potentially surrounded by a dense enough crowd of peons that it takes you a while to get past them. Not only that, but trying to run right past the peon line without defeating them means that, whenever you arrive at your destination, you will have to fight a bunch of peons to clear it out, which is usually what you’d like to do. Ignoring the front line to charge directly to an objective is still a valid strategy because peons still aren’t much of a threat, and even if the fight at your destination will be slower if you have to do it alone instead of bringing your own peons with you, the time saved in getting there without fighting will usually make up for it. You’ll take much more chip damage but it’s still a difference of 10% of your healthbar (total, for the entire attack) the slow way versus 30% the fast way, so it’s not like you’re in great danger of dying from the peons even when surrounded behind enemy lines.

However, it’s still a high-risk strategy, because number three, an officer with peon backup is much, much stronger than an officer alone. This is due to a combination of the flinch mechanic and directional blocking. Peons almost always deliver only 1 or 2 attacks by themselves, maybe 3-4 if they’re a high-ranking NCO (Dynasty Warriors runs firmly on authority = asskicking rules). Difficulty level and morale can affect this, but peon combos are timid enough that flinching from them doesn’t make much difference when fighting other peons. Flinching does, however, prevent you from interrupting the combos of enemy officers, and it works the same way for you: Your attacks cause enemy officers to flinch, which means they cannot interrupt your combos until you’ve reached the end (which is usually at least 6, often 8-9 depending on the character’s moveset – some characters technically have like 19-hit combos but their damage is low to compensate). Some characters have mid-combo attacks that have a fairly long wind-up time, but still not quite long enough for an enemy to recover from the flinch in time to get their block up. As long as each subsequent hit of the combo hits the target officer and causes them to flinch, you will get the entire combo off on them.

Unless an enemy peon hits you mid-combo, causing you to flinch and interrupting the combo. Furthermore, because the game has directional blocking, i.e. when you block you only block attacks from about a 120 degree arc in front of you, and because flinches also interrupt blocks, it’s possible to be in the middle of blocking an enemy combo from the front only to be hit from behind, causing you to flinch, and then the back end of the enemy combo (usually including its most powerful attacks) will hit you in the face. Even though peons do very little damage, the flinches they cause mean that an officer with peon backup is considerably more dangerous than an officer alone. Blitzing right past a peon front line to attack an enemy control point is a risky play because you’ll be in a whole lot of trouble if an enemy officer shows up.

I’m not counting this as a full separate point, more like point 3B because it’s an outgrowth of peons-as-reinforcements, but if a fight with an enemy officer has reduced you to very low health, it’s entirely possible to be finished off by peons. Being scared of enemy peon masses only happens when you’re very badly damaged from an officer, but it does happen.

How do we translate all this to Dragonball?

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I was worried that the Stronghold series was going to be a one-hit wonder. Stronghold 1 laid a pretty good foundation, Stronghold: Crusader and its Warchest had better scenarios and AI and some good additions to the unit roster, but they were also an expansion pack and a stone age DLC (respectively). Stronghold 2 and its many follow-ups (3, Legends, Warlords, Crusader 2) all had much worse review scores. I speculated it might just be a matter of when the games came out, Stronghold is one of those games that a lot of people played when they were eleven and maybe Stronghold 2’s big weakness is that it came out when its target audience were more discerning fifteen year olds, causing a large perceived drop in quality.

But although that was a possibility, I more suspected that actually the Stronghold devs didn’t really have any idea what they were doing and got Stronghold 1 working good by pure dumb luck. Stronghold 2 has borne this possibility out.

Stronghold 2 is now fully 3D and several key structures likes towers, gatehouses, and the central keep can now be entered. This is a cool gimmick but makes very little difference in gameplay. Units have been rebalanced a little, mainly in that swordsmen and knights are now way more powerful, and also there is exactly one new unit, a peasant militia which requires no weapon production, just 5 gold (even less than the 8 gold spearman or 12 gold longbowman, previously the cheapest, most basic units) that you can spam out in an emergency. This is a good addition, although since it’s the only addition it doesn’t really justify a sequel by itself.

Likewise, the religion overhaul is appreciated but not exactly worth making an entire sequel over. In the original Stronghold, when you built chapels, churches, or cathedrals, they would spawn priests who would wander around blessing any worker they bumped into. The blessing lasted a while, and longer if blessed by a priest from a more impressive religious building, and you got a happiness boost based on the percentage of your workers that were blessed. Happiness management is super important in Stronghold, so this is potentially a major effect. This sounds like it’s an interesting placement puzzle but in practice the priests wander in sufficiently unpredictable paths that there’s not really anything to do except stamp down religious buildings wherever they’ll fit and hope for the best. Crusader adds a flat happiness boost for the first church and the first cathedral you build, which at least encouraged you to build those two, but for the most part you’d get that, and then the +2 bonus for having 1-25% of your population blessed, and getting any more than that required such a ludicrous amount of religious buildings that you’d only do it as a gimmick.

In Stronghold 2, your church now works exactly like your tavern: You keep it supplied with a resource (candles for church, ale for tavern) and provides a happiness boost based on the rate at which you instruct them to consume that resource, from +0 if you shut it down (or run out of candles/ale) to +8 if you chew through your stockpile at maximum speed. Kind of lame that the church and the tavern are now basically the same thing, but I don’t have any better ideas and the old system just didn’t work, so whatever.

Then there’s honor and estates, a major gameplay change that I quite like. You can now do various poncy noble things like hosting feasts, making fancy dresses for a royal (or, technically, noble) ball, hosting tournaments, and so forth, which give you honor. Honor is a required resource to recruit certain units, so knights and swordsmen and such will only show up for you if you are a prestigious and well-regarded noble. You can also use honor to buy NPC villages called estates, who will send regular shipments of resources and/or gold to you in little wagons. You can, of course, also yoink villages that have already been claimed by a rival by military force. The NPC villages are completely self-governing so you don’t have to worry about micromanaging their food supply and happiness and so forth, allowing you to stay focused on your main castle, and they’re spread out through the map, so it’s actually worthwhile to have a field army that can run out to confront enemy skirmishers, so you get things like cheap, lightly armored, fast-moving longbows and macemen running around yoinking villages from each other.

It also means the game’s top-end unit, the knight, is now actually worth something because of how fast they are, which means they’re great for village patrol, whereas in the original game they were almost never worth the trouble of creating over the alternative option of demolishing all your stables to build more blacksmiths in order to pump out swordsmen faster. Sure, swordsmen are really slow, but in Stronghold 1, this rarely mattered. In Stronghold 2, your hammer blow on the enemy castle is still probably going to be either a glacial line of swordsmen marching inexorably through a breach in the wall while a giant mob of longbowmen/crossbowmen provide cover or else a giant mob of macemen and/or spearmen Zerging the enemy lord down using a combination of speed and sheer numbers to absorb enemy missiles in the meantime, but knights are much more likely to be involved as a harassing force rather than only being useful on specific maps that go out of their way to make economic harassment viable.

One major win and two minor but welcome improvements, so what’s the problem? Two things: First, Stronghold 2 has abysmal scenario design. They figured this out for Crusader, but I guess the lessons didn’t stick, because in Stronghold 2 they’re back to invasion missions where you have a finite number of troops and have to storm an enemy castle with them, rather than just giving you a castle and the enemy a castle and last castle standing wins, which is how the multiplayer works. Stronghold: Crusader had the Crusade Trail which was just 50 missions like that in a row in (mostly) escalating difficulty and it was great. Add a plot stringing them together (admittedly, you probably don’t want to voice act all 50 missions, but whatever, cut it to 20) and we’re golden.

Even worse, Stronghold 2 now strings multiple missions together on the same map, which is cool except that there’s no checkpoints between missions. If you quit mission 6-2, you have to start over from mission 6-1. If you lose the final invasion on mission 6-2, you either load a save or start over all the way from mission 6-1. There is no autosave system.

This is an unfortunate but manageable problem, except that also they got really excited about sending troops flying with siege weapons and it ruined the game. See, Stronghold 2’s 3D engine means that when a catapult or especially trebuchet stone hits, it blasts all troops in a five yard radius into the air, scattering your formation and killing most/all of the unlucky bastards, especially if they were on a wall, which, y’know, is generally where you want them to be. Scorpions/ballistae now fire a line straight through enemy units, wiping out entire advancing formations if they’re strung out to fit through a narrow path, which they often are just as a result of the shape of the game’s maps and the way the pathfinding works (there’s lots of bridges and mountain paths and even if there aren’t you will be adding some gates, and once your troops get into a column formation they don’t get out of it until they arrive at their destination). This places a much stronger emphasis on unit micro and the exact positioning of your troops and it makes siege engines a major threat to most troop types. And in a viscerally unrealistic way, too.

While the Stronghold series has never been good at historical accuracy, it did a good job of capturing the general vibe of medieval siege warfare. The exact units and resources were all over the place, but you had to bunker down behind walls to defend yourself from a besieging force, and weakening an enemy through starvation was a valid strategy, as is suppressing enemy archers with your own to make way for siege engines to open up the defenses so that your army could storm the place. A lot of the details are off, but the overall vibe is accurate.

Not in Stronghold 2. In Stronghold 2, trebuchets are WW1-style artillery that have a lethal radius measured in meters away from the stone’s actual impact, inaccurate but capable of completely cleaning out a bastion tower or wall of defenders if it’s lucky enough to score a direct hit. This places the emphasis on field battles – siege engines are so powerful against defenders atop walls and towers that you really want to go and confront them where you have room to maneuver. In fairness, real medieval militaries also really wanted to do field battles instead of sieges if they could help it, but the game is called Stronghold and it’s fallen down on historical accuracy in so many other places that it’s weird that it decides that one of the places it needs to stick to history is in making the title of the game less accurate.

Neither of these problems would’ve killed the game by themselves. I could follow a walkthrough beat for beat for the invasion missions to get to the good ones, and I could adapt to the new, far more devastating siege engines despite how much worse they make the game feel and look as a game about defending or attacking strongholds, but taken together it’s too much. This game goes in Regrets, and so does the rest of the series as, from the review scores, they have no chance of catching up.

On the bright side, that clears a lot of games out of the backlog.